Funny you say this when you painted your face white for your gaga parody
Funny that you linked to a video I created just two weeks ago to “remind me” that I painted my face white! After spending 10+ hours on it, I had somehow almost forgotten. (I included the photo of myself next to Gaga as a handy reminder) Here, lemme give you some much needed context. Lady Gaga’s song “applause” is all about her need for validation from her audience and how good it makes her feel when they cheer for her. In one scene, she is painted to resemble a crying clown, to show the dichotomy between being an entertainer and struggling with her own happiness. It’s actually quite clever.
Now, I swore I did a sufficient job of explaining why blackface isn’t ok for a costume, but I realize I didn’t explain why “whiteface” isn’t comparable, but only because the idea is so ludicrous, I didn’t really think it was necessary. But I’m gonna go there, just for you.
First off. This isn’t whiteface. I’m not trying to be a white person. Gaga is playing a clown, so I did my best to play a clown too. Personally, I think I did a pretty good job. Here’s the thing, clowns (and white people) are not and never have been an oppressed minority in this country (but the Irish! yeah, ok, but as soon as they were allowed to become white they stopped being a minority and engaged in/profited from the oppression of black people, so no). “whiteface” was not created to oppress white people or enforce harmful stereotypes about white people that lead to their mistreatment or deaths. It just….never happened. Therefore whiteface does not come with the baggage that blackface does.
The fact that you would accuse me of whiteface when I’m CLEARLY painted to look like a clown, says that you lack a basic understanding of historical context, you don’t know the difference between white people and clowns (which I guess can be confusing?) and you’re most likely trolling. Either way, this was highly amusing, so thanks.
Blackface “How to” Makeup Tutorials
Promise Phan (dope2111 on youtube) is a talented makeup artist that creates makeup tutorials for people to transform themselves into various celebrities. Her video transformations are truly incredible to watch, hence why she also calls herself “Mystique” but then, glaring problems arise when she takes up black celebrities as her assignment of the day. In those instances, Promise purposefully uses very dark foundation in order to darken her skin tone and uses other makeup techniques to make her look like a black person. In other words, she creates blackface tutorials for her viewers to become black celebrities (usually for halloween costumes), and the videos are massively popular, racking in million of views a piece. Captured above is her transformation into Antoine Dodson, which was particularly bad, but she has done a number of others as well including:
Lil Wayne (fake dreads, tattoos, grills and all)
It is very cringe-worthy (particularly this Antoine Dodson transformation video and the Lil Wayne one), and even though Promise seems like a really nice person, this type of thing is totally unacceptable given the long, damning history of black face in America. And when you consider the fact that she is teaching millions of people how to do black face themselves at home for Halloween or other functions, it is all the more disturbing. As black people, our skin color, our hair and our features are simply not “costumes” that we can take off when we are done trying to look “cool” for an evening. They are integral parts of our lives which we face shame and ridicule for, lose jobs over and form the foundation for our lived experiences of oppression. Black face is not funny, and transforming yourself into a black celebrity in a manner that incorporates black face isn’t either, and just serves to perpetuate oppressive systems that commodify and objectify black bodies. The privilege dynamic of non-black people being able to don our features for a little bit and get praised as “cool” and “edgy” for the same features that we can’t take off and which get us killed and arrested on a daily basis, make it all the worse.
Black face is not okay under any circumstances, and given the fact that Promise has continued to post these type of videos for several years now, it really seems as though she hasn’t learned or is simply choosing to ignore the history which makes black face just so wrong and offensive.
BLACKFACE IS NOT OK BLACKFACE IS NOT OK BLACKFACE IS NOT OK
She also does a blue face for her other costumes. You gunna write another three paragraphs about how that offends the avatars?
You just compared black people and our long, real history of oppression to that of fictional alien characters. White people never cease to amaze me with their racism.
OKAY I’M SORRY FOR SAYING THIS BECAUSE I’M WHITE AND I SHOULD NOT BE TALKING ABOUT THIS but I was always taught that “Blackface” was a certain era of theatrical makeup and plays that started roughly around the 1830-1930s that revolved around poking CRUEL and INSULTING jokes toward black people.
I don’t think she was trying to do -just that.- I thought she was just trying to be accurate when trying to copy a celebrity. I don’t see anywhere where she uses the word “nigger” or other racial and disgusting insults toward any race. THAT’S what “Blackface” actually is. I don’t think she was trying to be mean when doing this.
It’s not very often to see make-up artists do what she does, so there’s not a whole variety of ethnicity that can do this. I honestly don’t think it’d be fair if we literally had to restrict white celebrities to a white makeup guru, black celebrities to a black guru, Asian to Asian, etc. We’d be searching for forever. And there’d be no black aspiring make-up artists who’d want to possibly dress up like a black celebrity because they probably don’t know how to and might need help.
So pretty much, what I’ve been told:
Blackface =/= putting on darker foundation to imitate a certain person/celebrity.
Blackface = A certain theatrical genre in roughly 1830-1930 that involved painting your face black to make terrible and revolting racist jokes that obviously are not found funny at all today by most of society. Same as “opera” or “Vaudeville” or “burlesque” or “kabuki” and so on and so forth.
So pretty much it’s not a “term,” it’s a “genre.”
Now please keep in mind that I am not in any way supporting or promoting the fact that it’s “okay” to do anything. I’m just saying that this is what I’ve learned and if it’s still offensive and wrong. I apologize deeply. I do not wish to promote any form of racism. That stuff is never funny. Ever.
White people fascinate me. They insist that it’s not their place to jump into a discussion and then proceed to just that anyway. Like what in the fucking hell?
And, no, you’re wrong, of course. Read the fucking embedded links in a post before you do shit like this again. They’re there for a reason- and one of those reasons is to educate and prevent fuckery spewing like you did just there.
ugh ugh ugh.
Zoe Saldana responds to criticisms regarding her playing Nina Simone in the “biopic.”
As genuine and heartfelt as this appears to be, a grown ass woman of color should have a clear understanding and empathy for the complex issues of representation in Hollywood….ESPECIALLY as it relates to presenting the life of Nina Simone. You love and respect Nina- GREAT- then attach your name to the project as a co-producer. Ego and careerism are a mutha.
Or grown ass black ppl can look beyond a fucking shade of black and realize black is fucking black.
How dare you tell her she’s not black enough bc her genes made her a little Lighter
How dare you ask her dignify your own colorism against your self your brothers your sisters
How dare you
How fucking dare you
Like she doesn’t already have it hard enough in an industry where her beauty makes her enough to fit in but not win their awards not allow her to die with a legacy
We wonder why our own never gives back
We can’t even recognize them as our own.
So yes I understand that for dark skin Americans it’s always a little fucking harder
But us yellow folk still treated like fucking slaves too
House or field a slave is still a fucking slave
And it won’t stop till we realize the 1% rule is still there if your as black as night or as light as day.
Black person get a role of a significant black person and y’all mad cuz she a little lite
I feel like somebody doesn’t know shit about Nina Simone.
But hey, I could be wrong.
Prolly ain’t, tho.
The issue here is that people understand racism, but not structural colorism. Blackface is not unique to the U.S., it has a history in old Cuban theater, as well. Whitening and lightening darker folk in print and other forms of entertainment is not new, it has an oppressive history. Zoe deserves critique for not fully understanding that constructive criticism is not someone being a “hater,” or not wanting her to be happy, but that her accepting this role perpetuates an ongoing problem of the preference for lighter, more European-featured women to play darker, more African-featured women. And for a woman like Nina Simone, *what she looked like* was integral to her identity. Zoe’s ignorance of this issue, as loving (and naive) as her intent may be, does not get a pass. You cannot conflate your ignorance with love for your people.
I have no qualms about an AfroLatina playing an African-American if all other ducks were in order. I think Zoe could play Eartha Kitt … would be interested to see. But this? No. Still, I’m excited for Zoe as an actress and as a proud AfroLatina/Dominicana, but this role for her seems like it will be a bit of (an offensive) mess …
Lol at people hating on Yolandi for “Blackface”. She was born and raised in South Africa, where black face means nothing to them and means everything to stupid Americans. America started black face, while other countries get a kick. She might have been making a statement of “Well she’s white, how is she from Africa”, which is said more about Die Antwoord than anything.
Bitch, REALLY? Really. REALLY?
“She might have been making a statement.” MIGHT HAVE BEEN. Do you seriously think a group that wrote the song “I Fink You Freaky” is that nuanced in their social commentary on race? Do you even think they give two shits about race or anything but making their bangs look like they were burned off in a kitchen fire? And regardless of what her intentions were, regardless of her origins (which are on some good ol racist bullshit origins I can tell you that much) she is dressing in blackface.
Die Antwoord is a South African band. Are you that basic that you don’t even know the racist history of that country, IN WHICH BLACKS ARE THE MAJORITY?????? Do you live in a world where The Color of Friendship ended racism or something? Must be nice to not think of all the Black South Africans who still face blatant discrimination even after they had a BLACK PRESIDENT OMG WUT R U SRS~*~*~*~*
And this cesspool of human indecency may be
AfricanAfrikaaner but since when did being a White African label you as savage, as barbaric, as a subhuman in comparison to the superiorities of the West in the same way Black Africans are?
*If you look closely enough, you’ll see Yolandi’s great-grandfather (holding the gun)*
There is no way in hell you are stupid enough to believe that these crackers who can’t seem to find a good barber are trying to “debunk the rumor that all Africans are Black.”
And y’all think that just because Americans were the ones who invented it that they’re the only ones who can be guilty of being racist for it? And that just because Black Americans were the target of blackface stereotyping that they’re the only ones who can be offended by it? There are so many fucking examples of blackface abroad in the past ten-fifteen yearsoutside of the United States that there is no way in hell that your fucking god damn oxygen-deprived brain basic as all shit brain can think that Die Antwoord can throw on some black makeup and not be seen as racist pieces of garbage.
I hope this was informative! Do not open your mayo mouth next time the grown ups are talking about race, sweetie, you’ll hurt yourself.